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kickenchicken57
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yea, I already created a new thread and came here to inform everyone that it was deleted. made a new post at http://gscentral.org/board/index.php?topic=3179.0 titled "Request that Kode Garage be removed"
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I did not give permission for my program to be hosted on this site
http://www.gscentral.org/tools/nds/Code%20Garagev10.rar

I kindly ask that it be removed.

Respectfully, Kc57
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dlong
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Expect to be banned. Make the splash screen. That way, he'll have to choose between a buggy version and a working version that insults GaySexCentral.
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:lol: hey get this
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1) Avoid bumping threads. Double posting is only allowed in threads where a running total or site information is provided. For example, the unhacked gamecube titles thread or any threads involving the upgrading of the forums or main site.
2) Treat other members with respect. The line between jest and seriousness is easy to see.
3) Keep posts in the relevant forums.
4) Locking topics must be justified with a fellow administrator.
5) Moderators and administrators have been appointed and are expected to be treated with respect.
6) Any harassment of other users over PM will be dealt in an efficient and organized manner.
6) Not all code requests can be filled immediately. Some games are harder to hack than others. We are not obligated to hack a game
7) Do not try to take credit for anothers work. As hackers we pride ourselfs in our work.
8.)Any abuse of the PM system reported will Result in a punishment. This includes your right to report them.
9) when reporting if you do not include a ligit reason for such you will be asked and if you fail to respond it may result in a ban depending on the number of reports given. This includes both PMs and posts. and sending me spam is also not to be tolerated. If you use any email obtained here to spam me or any other staff member you may be banned.
10) please donate to Rune for his game hacking and for GSC.


I believe they broke rule number 2 by deleting the thread without posting a reason. It is highly disrespectful to delete a thread just to shut someone up. They are too chicKen s@%^$ to have someone question them so they delete the thread rather than discuss the issue.

Rule 7 was broke by rune plenty of times.
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Rule 10 reeks of rune's narcissism.
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lol lmao at Rule 10

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kickenchicken57 wrote:
I did not give permission for my program to be hosted on this site
http://www.gscentral.org/tools/nds/Code%20Garagev10.rar

I kindly ask that it be removed.

Respectfully, Kc57

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I asked your mom and she said it was okay.



lmao fuck Rune.

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That's nothing surprising. When ever Rune gets completely owned, he just makes a nonsensical reply. It's a defense mechanism.
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Eew! Rune changed the name of the program? I like the idea of a splash screen, maybe something like:
http://www.freewebs.com/dimondedge/kwsplash.jpg
Yes, that is a crappy photoshop made in five minutes. VC++ wouldn't show me the GUI output for no reason other than it's windows, so I had to fudge it.
Of course, you'd have to copywrite Kode Garage to do that, but that is not too hard.

Rune is such an asshole.

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Rune wrote:
I suggest checking the text that you agreed to when signing up to these boards.


I suggest you check the text here http://www.cybercrime.gov/ipmanual/01ipma.html Specifically this part:
the law wrote:
# I.B.1. Copyright

The law of copyright is designed to foster the production of creative works and the free flow of ideas by providing legal protection for creative expression. Copyright provides protection against the infringement of certain exclusive rights in "original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression," including computer software; literary, musical, and dramatic works; motion pictures and sound recordings; and pictorial, sculptural, and architectural works. See 17 U.S.C. § 102(a). These exclusive rights include the rights of reproduction, public distribution, public performance, public display, and preparation of derivative works. 17 U.S.C. § 106. Legal protection exists as soon as the work is expressed in tangible form. Copyright law protects the physical expression of an idea, but not the idea itself.

Although civil law protects all the copyright owner's exclusive rights, criminal law primarily focuses on the rights of distribution and reproduction. See 17 U.S.C. § 506(a) and 18 U.S.C. § 2319. Those convicted of criminal copyright infringement face up to five years' imprisonment and a $250,000 fine. Id.


let me put this in simple terms for you Rune:
1) Legal protection exists for my software as soon as I release it
2) I alone hold the right to who may or may not distribute this regardless of whether or not I choose to inform you within the license file.
3) If charged, you face up to 5 years and $250,000 fine
4) You have been given a polite request to remove my software from this site, I hope you will reconsider.
5) I have the money and the time to follow through with this.
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Thanks to United States Copyright Law, any and all works released by a group or individual in the US are automatically granted copyright protection. (Unless expressly denied by the author, for example, by placing the works into the public domain.) "Filing for copyright" to the US Copyright office is almost never done by individuals or small non-profit organizations. That would typically be reserved for larger corporations, and especially more often with patenting than copyrighting.

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(Unless expressly denied by the author, for example, by placing the works into the public domain.)


Are you saying that when I released my software here that it voids out the automatic copyright? If so I believe that is wrong.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html#PublicDomainSoftware
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Under the Berne Convention, which most countries have signed, anything written down is automatically copyrighted. This includes programs. Therefore, if you want a program you have written to be in the public domain, you must take some legal steps to disclaim the copyright on it; otherwise, the program is copyrighted.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/18.html
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Article 18

(1) This Convention shall apply to all works which, at the moment of its coming into force, have not yet fallen into the public domain in the country of origin through the expiry of the term of protection.

(2) If, however, through the expiry of the term of protection which was previously granted, a work has fallen into the public domain of the country where protection is claimed, that work shall not be protected anew. ....


Expiry of the term of protection occurs when I die plus 50 years after for the minimum protection required.


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No, I said that in order to become public domain it must explicitly be released as such (as in, expressly denying the copyright). Since that is obviously not the case here, I couldn't even be mistaken to imply such nonsense, right?

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Parasyte wrote:
No, I said that in order to become public domain it must explicitly be released as such (as in, expressly denying the copyright). Since that is obviously not the case here, I couldn't even be mistaken to imply such nonsense, right?


well, i was a little fuzzy on what releasing into the public domain meant. NOT your fault at all. I see what you meant. But, at least I have proof also now :D that I am protected because I did NOT explicitly release it into public domain. Have any recommendations for lawyers dealing with specifically this issue? this could shut down GSC if Rune does not comply with my request and I follow through with this.
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My suggestion would be calling some local attorneys and speaking with them about the issue. If nothing else, they will certainly have some people to direct you to who might be better suited for the job. Just keep in mind that it's going to be an international lawsuit; Rune (James Woolley) is in Canada, and the server is hosted in Germany by LLCoolDave (David Spickermann), a German citizen.

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kool, I may call around tomorrow and see what I can come up with. This is sooo much more fun than a flame war :mrgreen:
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kickenchicken57 wrote:
kool, I may call around tomorrow and see what I can come up with. This is sooo much more fun than a flame war :mrgreen:



yea, but I don't think it will be as fun if rune tries to talk.

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He removed it from GSC... but has a direct link to it on a Geocities site. :/ Don't thank him.

LOL! It's down already...

HEIL RUNE!

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I guess he does look at our site more than his own :/

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It's on tripod now. Add the splash screen next update. That is your only option.


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No it isn't. Contacting the host about the copyright infringement is a fine option.

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The Link is still there for download even after he updated the site's main page.
If it's not removed by tomorrow, I'd make another thread.

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lmao, after lots of lawsuit threats, he finally says he'll take it down ^.^
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Hmm... I suspect photoshop ftw as well? Or is Rune coming out of the closet?

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He's deleted my account.
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Yeah, GSC banning someone because they violated his intellectual property is just like them. It's not going to change the fact that they've violated copyright law, nor is it going to cover it up. How hilariously vain!

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I guess they don't get a heads-up for legal action, then. I'd advise anyone associated with the site to become unassociated.

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Hmm... I suspect photoshop ftw as well? Or is Rune coming out of the closet?


nah, html ftw. just saved a copy. anyone check out the news section in the screenshot or just the title? lol
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Eheheh...

The Jello is unmodified, correct?

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yes, only the news section and the title. Surprisingly, they actually signed it as "Jello". typical rune response.
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