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Author:  SithViperX [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Banning?
So i have heard there are actually confirmed reports of people on these forums getting banned.

Is there any truth to these stories? If so, we need to establish what the criterion are for being banned, what you can do to circumvent a ban, and overall what they are using to ban you. (WiFi ID, Mac Address...etc)

So please post how much you have rooted leader boards/your general history of AR using, and then if you got banned and what you did about it.
So far I think they are only going after high profile people (i.e., those with ridiculous scores on the leader boards), not not those who have only used hacks in games or for lower stats.

Edit: Also, just thought of this, if you were banned please define "being banned". Could you log on to a wireless connection to play any games? Or were you simply banned from http://www.nintendowifi.com activities?
Author:  Parasyte [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:30 pm ]
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Banned? If you are talking about Metroid Prime Hunters, please keep in mind that this forum is not specific to MPH hacking.

As far as that goes, I was banned back in early July (Notice this is before AR came out in August) for a brief period as they were investigating the original /root. Here are some excerpts from my blog when I covered the incident:

Quote:
Saturday, July 08, 2006 Dear Nintendo,

I have some interesting news for my readers, out there. (All 3 of you.) Nintendo has gained official interest in my exploits of their online gaming service. Yesterday, this very profile was visited by both Nintendo of America (NOA) and Nintendo Co. Limited (NCL) direct from Redmond, Washington and Kyoto, Japan, respectively. Hello, Nintendo employees! I just wish you weren't so discreet about your investigation. (Let's be serious, I could use the notoriety.)

I suppose I've accomplished the goal I set out to achieve; getting noticed. But now I have to unban my DS from Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection so I can play Tetris DS online again. Thanks a lot for that, I guess. I imagine it should be no surprise that I am looking forward to the next WFC title, which I believe is StarFox. Just be sure to tighten up the securty on it some! Please?

That is all for now.

Quote:
Tuesday, July 11, 2006 Nintendo of America follow up

I received a call this morning, roughly 5 minutes ago, from Nintendo of America Call Center manager, Tom Brown (please excuse if I botched your name, it was a bit exciting). The story goes he had received word, just this morning, of my current situation and kindly followed up with me. I was asked politely to cease hacking the leader board, to which I agreed after confirming that my Nintendo Power subscription is indeed still active.

"Of course it's still active; you paid for it..." is the response I received. For a moment there, I figured some legal action would have had to been taken to correct the issue. Apparently, the error I received from the MyNintendo website informing me that my Nintendo Power member subscription number is "incorrect" was caused by linking it to my now-banned account. If all goes well, I may even get that account back in the next few days. I'm pleased to report that all seems well in the land of Nintendo.

I will give my second follow up in two-three weeks, when I expect to receive the September issue of Nintendo Power magazine. We will also see by then if my MyNintendo account has been unbanned, as well as my IP address from the forums. Stay tuned!


They did eventually lift the ban, but not before I changed the WiFi Connection ID on my DS, myself, circumventing the ban completely. To accomplish this, I wrote a very small homebrew program to erase the WFC ID from the NDS firmware, and replaced it with random numbers for a new one.

"Being banned" involves receiving an error message along the lines of "Could not connect with this connection ID." in all games when attempting to connect to WFC.

As far as I know, at least two others here have been banned.
Author:  Mewy [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:33 pm ]
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WTF, MyNintendo acount?
I can access WiFi without a fucking acount.
Author:  TeenTin [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:36 pm ]
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Parasyte, would you please send me your little program ? Many Thanks !
Author:  kickenchicken57 [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:41 pm ]
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Mewy wrote:
WTF, MyNintendo acount?
I can access WiFi without a fucking acount.


Yes, but you can sign up for an optional account to link your stats to and view them online
Author:  Mewy [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:44 pm ]
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I don't see it...
Author:  Parasyte [ Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:01 pm ]
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The nintendo.com USA site has the MyNintendo accounts. They are used for Nintendo Power magazine subscriptions and promotions (free stuff)
Author:  SithViperX [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:44 pm ]
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So basically we have confirmed a few things.

-There is no automated system for banning as of yet
-WiFi ID is the method used to ban, and this can be circumvented due to a program made by parasyte which i'm sure he would be happy to share with us. ;)
-WiFi ID's are generated randomly and not assigned. Any Wifi ID will work on any ds.

Just out of curiosity, how did you hack the leaderboards before AR? Did you just load a homebrew onto the DS through a flash cart/passme?

ALSO, i take it the only way they banned your MyNintendo account was by having it linked to your ds, so if someone kept their DS and MyNintendo seperate, it would be physically impossible to have you banned from your MyNintendo. Keep in mind i think this would also include not registing your serial number. (I am assuming Nintendo had the foresight to keep the info correlating your serial number with your randomly generated WiFi ID.)

IN CONCLUSION: It is impossible to be banned. If you are banned on the WiFi ID of your DS, you can just change the WiFi ID. Keep your MyNintendo seperate and it will never come into it.
Author:  Dualscreenman [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:00 pm ]
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From Kodewerx's collective knowledge, your deductions are correct.
Author:  Parasyte [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:05 pm ]
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I started work on a debugger (similar to the one I did for GameCube; "GCNrd") around June 2005. It uses Xport (like a GBA flash cart with an FPGA; see http://www.charmedlabs.com/) and a "NoPass"-type device (AKA PassMe3) to run NDS code from the GBA slot. I used it to hack the Mario Kart DS "all courses online" thing in November 2005, and the Metroid Prime Hunters leaderboard in July 2006.
Author:  Random_Kid [ Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:16 pm ]
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And the error code for when you're banned is 20102 if you that helps you :)
Author:  Mewy [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:05 am ]
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Parasyte wrote:
I started work on a debugger (similar to the one I did for GameCube; "GCNrd") around June 2005. It uses Xport (like a GBA flash cart with an FPGA; see http://www.charmedlabs.com/) and a "NoPass"-type device (AKA PassMe3) to run NDS code from the GBA slot. I used it to hack the Mario Kart DS "all courses online" thing in November 2005, and the Metroid Prime Hunters leaderboard in July 2006.

Can I also use a SuperCard, inseed of Xport?
Xport is really to expensive.
Author:  Parasyte [ Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:18 am ]
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Not at this time. Maybe in the future.
Author:  AdmiralGST [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Banning?
how do i change my wifi id?
Author:  Hextator [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 3:49 pm ]
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To Parasyte:

This program of yours...could it be executed from RAM?

The DS Bricker modifies the firmware, doesn't it? Would altering the DS Bricker to do something productive rather than destructive, for example, allow overwriting of the WFC ID?

I mean, all these kids are asking for your program. How do they even plan to use it unless a simple cheating device can execute it?

Also, for personal reference, is the firmware accessed similarly to the way reading from a DS cart is?

Edit: I should have known I was posting in a massively bumped thread.

My questions remain valid, if Para sees and cares to answer them. :\
Author:  lemmayoshi [ Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Banning?
I'll post the unbanner code in the Metroid Prime Hunters topic, if it's okay with Parasyte.

EDIT: PM me for it.
Author:  HyperHacker [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re:
Zeld wrote:
To Parasyte:

This program of yours...could it be executed from RAM?

The DS Bricker modifies the firmware, doesn't it? Would altering the DS Bricker to do something productive rather than destructive, for example, allow overwriting of the WFC ID?
I see no reason the bricker code couldn't be modified to do this. I'd also like to know just where in the firmware the WFC ID and MAC address are stored, for unrelated reasons.
Author:  Master SL [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Banning?
You know that wouldn't be a bad idea.
However I think it would be beter just making the bricker code into a unbanning code by rewriting only the mac address as the wifi i.d. can be changed by resetting your wifi connection.

granted for the DSphat the idea of using an unbanning code is unnecessary since they ban DS phats wifi i.d. and not its mac address (or so I was told)

So the code would only be useful for people with the DSLite since their mac address gets banned and/or the wifi I.D.

Lemma could I PM you for the code as well? I don't like pestering people needlessly unless they allow it.

*goes to pester Zeld*
Author:  Mewy [ Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re:
Parasyte wrote:
I started work on a debugger (similar to the one I did for GameCube; "GCNrd") around June 2005. It uses Xport (like a GBA flash cart with an FPGA; see http://www.charmedlabs.com/) and a "NoPass"-type device (AKA PassMe3) to run NDS code from the GBA slot. I used it to hack the Mario Kart DS "all courses online" thing in November 2005, and the Metroid Prime Hunters leaderboard in July 2006.

I know it already, you said this before at the old GSC board, but to be sure, can you answer this question:
Is this how you discovered old_mario_gc (unused MKDS track)???
Author:  Parasyte [ Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Banning?
No. Xport is not magical. It only provides a direct link from NDS to a PC. That was its only purpose for me. Hacking is altogether different.
Author:  Mewy [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Banning?
I thought you said once, use used YOUR debugger to ride on it and made this video...
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