Kodewerx :: View topic - FYI: Pokemon Pearl and Diamond backup with AR GBA/DS Max

that sucks, i started playing on my DS-X card before i bought the game. I was going tp transfer my save over after I got the duo... Please let me know if you find a way around this macrox

It seems I have found for the first time two games that cannot be backed up with the AR GBA/DS Max....namely the new Pokemon Pearl and Diamond DS games. It appears that the Max does not see the cart in the DS slot of the MAX as it should to do the backup. This is rather unforntunate since without backup protection there is no way to try some of these outstanding codes you guys are doing without risking our save states. If anyone else happens to have a MAX please reply if you find the same result or not.

*Laughs* Only a Pokemon game would need 4MB of memory space. If you think about it... Pokemon does need to save a lot of information. I would think the actual game takes more than 128MB. Its really nice to see that not all game creators are eating resources like candy, just because they can. Pokemon Pearl/Diamond are very extensive games. I would think that there would be much more space needed than 128MB. The database alone could probably be most of that... At least, I'd figure.

Yeah but my point was that it was the japanese game that was 128 Mb of game.
Why is the english version half that?
Not counting the save but the actual game itself I mean.

Yeah but wouldn't it be better with the R4 since you can make bakups of your saves before hand?
That way if the code screws everything up you turn the bakup into a .sav file before your game got screwed up.

Noone listens to me T_T

I'm gonna try out rein tomorrow if i get a chance.

Master SL wrote:

I have no R4 yet. I have a DS-X with no AR support. I want to transfer my save to the original card. I'm gonna try out rein tomorrow if i get a chance.

Author:	macrox [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:56 pm ]
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It seems I have found for the first time two games that cannot be backed up with the AR GBA/DS Max....namely the new Pokemon Pearl and Diamond DS games. It appears that the Max does not see the cart in the DS slot of the MAX as it should to do the backup. This is rather unforntunate since without backup protection there is no way to try some of these outstanding codes you guys are doing without risking our save states. If anyone else happens to have a MAX please reply if you find the same result or not.

Author:	Z3R0 [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:27 pm ]
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kickenchicken57 wrote: that sucks, i started playing on my DS-X card before i bought the game. I was going tp transfer my save over after I got the duo... Please let me know if you find a way around this macrox

Author:	Dualscreenman [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:32 pm ]
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Funny, saving is broken in no$gba too. I guess it could be a hardware thing.

Author:	kittyprincess66 [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:52 pm ]
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Anyone try rein with it yet? I don't have the original cart, and can not do so yet.

Author:	Parasyte [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:15 pm ]
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4m flash, I am thinking.

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Author:	Dualscreenman [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:20 pm ]
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Yeah, I wasn't confident enough to say it but that's what I thought too... Hey, gamesaves are getting as big as some GBA games!

Author:	Parasyte [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:26 pm ]
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The SDK has always had provisions to support 4m and 8m flash, but no games have ever used them. It also has some FRAM (flash RAM) support. I think those were 64k and 256k or something.

Author:	dexter0 [ Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:41 pm ]
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Out of plain curiosity, do you have the SDK or the documentation within it? No real reason for asking, I have just heard that high up members in the homebrew and dev scenes sometimes have them.

Author:	Krikey Texx [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:02 am ]
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Maybe this needs that special solder like animal crossing? Just a thought...

Author:	Dualscreenman [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:38 am ]
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Nah, the backup tools just need to be programmed to handle 4 Mbit saves.

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:25 am ]
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macrox wrote: It seems I have found for the first time two games that cannot be backed up with the AR GBA/DS Max....namely the new Pokemon Pearl and Diamond DS games. It appears that the Max does not see the cart in the DS slot of the MAX as it should to do the backup. This is rather unforntunate since without backup protection there is no way to try some of these outstanding codes you guys are doing without risking our save states. If anyone else happens to have a MAX please reply if you find the same result or not. Couldn't you us ethe R4 and make a bakup file for the save? That way in case the file of your sav gets corrupted you can just use the bakup file to restore ito it's previous state. That's what do whenever my save for CR:A gets corrupted.

Author:	Smalls1652 [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:35 am ]
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It should work through PC backup and restore

Author:	macrox [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:41 am ]
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Ah...good point Smalls....I stop using the cable and PC when I upgraded the MAX firmware last month...let me check that option out and get back to you....

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:50 am ]
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or that >.<

Author:	Baphomet [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:47 pm ]
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Woops. Heh, guess I ignored the absent B there. Like you said still alot...

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Author:	Smalls1652 [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:23 am ]
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It works for ACWW so it must work for Pokemon D/P

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 am ]
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Yeah but AC:WW was also ARMAX duo compatible. Remember?

Author:	Dualscreenman [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:33 am ]
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Animal Crossing and Pokemon also use different save sizes which the DUO/MAX may have not supported.

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:55 am ]
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Hmmm should I check on the sav size file they used? Interesting thing Japanese Pearl/diamond are roughly 128 mb The english version of diamond and pearl is roughly half of that.

Author:	Bat420man [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:40 pm ]
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I am able to make gamesaves using my GBA gameshark. Works just fine with Diamond.

Author:	kickenchicken57 [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:45 pm ]
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Well, one option I thought about would be to do a ram dump in the emulator, and then load the ram into my diamond game using the trainer toolkit. I've been playing the game on my DS-X card so I want to load that save onto my official card. Only thing is I can't load my save file with NO$GBA to try it. From what you guys have said it looks like You cant load a save in the emulators yet.

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:54 pm ]
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Yeah but wouldn't it be better with the R4 since you can make bakups of your saves before hand? That way if the code screws everything up you turn the bakup into a .sav file before your game got screwed up. Noone listens to me T_T

Author:	Baphomet [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:38 pm ]
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Laughs Only a Pokemon game would need 4MB of memory space. If you think about it... Pokemon does need to save a lot of information. I would think the actual game takes more than 128MB. Its really nice to see that not all game creators are eating resources like candy, just because they can. Pokemon Pearl/Diamond are very extensive games. I would think that there would be much more space needed than 128MB. The database alone could probably be most of that... At least, I'd figure.

Author:	Dualscreenman [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:43 pm ]
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Remember it's a 4 megabit save, so it's only taking up half a megabyte. Still a lot...

Author:	Master SL [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:21 pm ]
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Baphomet wrote: Laughs Only a Pokemon game would need 4MB of memory space. If you think about it... Pokemon does need to save a lot of information. I would think the actual game takes more than 128MB. Its really nice to see that not all game creators are eating resources like candy, just because they can. Pokemon Pearl/Diamond are very extensive games. I would think that there would be much more space needed than 128MB. The database alone could probably be most of that... At least, I'd figure. Yeah but my point was that it was the japanese game that was 128 Mb of game. Why is the english version half that? Not counting the save but the actual game itself I mean.

Author:	macrox [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:18 pm ]
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It is not working for me. I have the newest version of the firmware on the GBA/DS Max and I have just tried the backup by using the PC. It continues to read it sees no DS game in the DS slot of the MAX. I went back and tried several other DS games with this process and it works just fine. Bat420man, since you seem to have success we need to get more info from you. Did you back it up with the GBA/DS Max alone? Did you use the PC uts and the cable? Please get back to me on this.

Author:	D3FAULT [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:28 pm ]
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Quote: Yeah but my point was that it was the japanese game that was 128 Mb of game. Why is the english version half that? Not counting the save but the actual game itself I mean. Because they found a way to condense it... a lot? =/

Author:	kickenchicken57 [ Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:57 pm ]
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Master SL wrote: Yeah but wouldn't it be better with the R4 since you can make bakups of your saves before hand? That way if the code screws everything up you turn the bakup into a .sav file before your game got screwed up. Noone listens to me T_T I have no R4 yet. I have a DS-X with no AR support. I want to transfer my save to the original card. I'm gonna try out rein tomorrow if i get a chance.

Author:	Y.S. [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:19 am ]
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Quote: I'm gonna try out rein tomorrow if i get a chance. Pokemon saves can also be backed up using Eepinator. By the way, I've modified the PokeSav software so that it can generate AR code for Pokemon D/P USA. Download link is Here [/url]

Author:	Master SL [ Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:37 am ]
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kickenchicken57 wrote: Master SL wrote: Yeah but wouldn't it be better with the R4 since you can make bakups of your saves before hand? That way if the code screws everything up you turn the bakup into a .sav file before your game got screwed up. Noone listens to me T_T I have no R4 yet. I have a DS-X with no AR support. I want to transfer my save to the original card. I'm gonna try out rein tomorrow if i get a chance. Yeah that should work. I prefer the R4 to the DS-x ( i have both since my bro owns one and I use it often) Grrr stupid pokemon diamond rom keeps crashing. Tis annoying.