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James0x57
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MWAHAHAHAHA.

That's right........ you can't get away with loopholes with me.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:45 pm 
The final line is that the chance of a commercial cheat device coming out for any console from this current generation onward is very very slim at best. For all intents and purposes, the cheat device is dead.
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The final line is that the chance of a commercial cheat device coming out for any console from this current generation onward is very very slim at best. For all intents and purposes, the cheat device is dead.


That is, until Nintendo comes up with some fucked up contraption along the lines of a triple-screen handheld device with a neuro-sensor and thermal dildo in it.

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^^^Uh-oh. You just gave Nintendo an idea for a "Nintendo DS 2" <_<;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;



P.S.: You still can't get away with a loophole when it comes to me. *shrugs*

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^^^Uh-oh. You just gave Nintendo an idea for a "Nintendo DS 2" <_<;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
P.S.: You still can't get away with a loophole when it comes to me. *shrugs*


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There was no loophole. You just misunderstood.
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^^^Eh? Seemed like a loophole to me........... *shrugs*

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were ther's a will there's a way and datel/codebreakers will find a loop-hole "if any?" and ues it to their advantage to make a cheat device...?

don't quote me on that?!?

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^^^Exactly

*keeps waiting for PS3 and Wii code devices to come out*

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were ther's a will there's a way and datel/codebreakers will find a loop-hole "if any?" and ues it to their advantage to make a cheat device...?

don't quote me on that?!?

How many times do people have to say it? A cheat device MAY come out for the Wii, but it will be immediately(maybe?) blocked by an update and they will have to find a new way to run it, so unless you don't install any updates for the Wii, you're sol. The Playstation 3 cheat device is extremely unlikely.
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^^^Fine. Then I just won't update my Wii, which will make it work right? You just said it would................

Same thing for the PS3. WHEN a PS3 code device comes out (trust me, one will be made, besides, this is how companies work and make money, correct?) I won't update my PS3 either.

Fair enough? ^_^'

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Listen. Just because that's how they make their money doesn't mean it's going to happen. In order to even run them they need a way of running unsigned code which is very close to impossible. The chances of EVER seeing a PS3 code device are extremely slim.
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Lemmayoshi is right, YOU SHOULD listen to him UltimateDamage.

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^^^Fine. Then I just won't update my Wii, which will make it work right? You just said it would................

Same thing for the PS3. WHEN a PS3 code device comes out (trust me, one will be made, besides, this is how companies work and make money, correct?) I won't update my PS3 either.

Fair enough? ^_^'


In theory, if an exploit was found in a version of the Wii firmware and Datel was capable of exploiting it, they could make an Action Replay. However, Nintendo would patch this hole in the next version of the firmware. Not updating the firmware is a possibility; however, Nintendo includes firmware updates on the discs of popular games (Twilight Princess, Mario Galaxy, Brawl, etc.), and requires you to install the update before you play the game, so you would be unable to play any first-party Nintendo games ever again. Even if you are willing to go through with this, most people will not, and it is almost certain Datel recognizes this fact, and thus will not waste their money attempting to develop a Wii AR.
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Actually, dlong, I heard the Freeloader stops the updater from starting and just boots the game.
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Yes, it's possible for a third-party loader to not update, but:
1) The games might not work without the updates, and
2) What if you buy it after updating?

A commercial cheat devices requires a hole that can't be fixed, and those are rare.

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Then someone better help me beat games without codes. Because I'm pretty sure I can't.

*shrugs, then says nothing*

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No one has to help you do anything. Alas, here's a link about a PS3 codebreaker.

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Looks like Nintendo has already started, heh. Japanese Mario Kart Wii is not compatible with an American or Europe Freeloader. Also, fuck you, Minion.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:18 am 
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Then someone better help me beat games without codes. Because I'm pretty sure I can't.

*shrugs, then says nothing*


You need a new hobby.

I suggest knitting.
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-_-;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

*sighs*

Whatever.

*points to sig one last time*

Can a NICE person make sure to do that for me? Thanks.

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Gecko Freeloader
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Load boot.elf from Chain Loader. Insert any Wii Game and press reset. Enjoy your region free gaming.

Cool Additional Bonus (optional)

If you own a USB Gecko it will install a remote debugger and screenshot engine into memory and will hook. This means you can load Gecko Tool version included and grab screen shots and use the remote debugger in any Wii game. This is all done on the fly and silently, and has no effect on none USB Gecko users.

Technical Gargon:

Gecko Region Free was created with the homebrew libogc library. No certs, Tmd, Tik, Keys or other Nintendo copyright material were used or attached in the file, making it a pure homebrew release. No Datel code was used either, so please don't call this a clone etc as this and Freeloader work in completely different ways.

The decryption is done by the hardware, not in software and the correct IOS version of the game booting is selected and used. This is done by reading the information off the DVD using the low level read commands and then passed back to the starlet.

My own apploader was written, and will completely ignore the update partition, no patching is done except a region flag which is required.

This of course only works with Wii games.

Disclaimer:

Please note I take 'no' responsibility for the use of this software, If a game doesn't work you can report this in the USB Gecko forums, and I will try to fix it for the next release. It has worked on all games i've tried however I can not afford to buy all games so will need beta testers

Big Greets to the following people:

Xt5, Shagkur, Y.S, Bushing, Costis, Dhewg, Pinchy, Segher, TMBinc, brakken and tehskeen.com and all Gecko beta testers!
Now if only we had source. Well at least he makes it sound like loading discs isn't too difficult.

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Awesome. Now I need to buy one of those USB Gecko cards. :-)
I hope he adds GCN booting support, since I've got some Japanese games and an AR that I can't boot right now.
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